Discrepancies in the Testimony of Christine and Paula Trent
We understand people saw the show, but if you want to know what a liar these two women are, just look at the discrepancies. Now, Christine says Robert drug her by the head of the hair down the hall. Now, if you pay real close attention, Christine never mentions the "gazebo" incident, nor does she mention the "hands and knees" incident you hear mentioned. There is no doubt that there are 150 discrepancies in testimony, now there is MORE, because now she has lied in yet, another courtroom.
How many discrepancies (lies) can you tell in a Harris County Criminal Court (and the Prosecutor or Judge won't stop the trial) and not get charged with Aggravated Perjury? (See answer below.)
(PO is for Protective Order Hearing, Trial is the actual trial where Robert was prosecuted.)
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Person |
Date |
Transcript |
Page |
Testimony |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
6 |
Testifies that she lived with Robert for 13 years, constant. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
25 |
States that Christine and Robert were split up in 97. |
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Were they living together “constantly” or not? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
13 |
States Robert was mad because he wanted her to leave. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
18 |
States Robert was mad in the morning because mother wanted to make coffee and was late. That mother was being too slow. States that Robert was going crazy and everything. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
108 |
States Robert was mad because she wasn’t waking up and getting up fast enough. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
61 |
Never mentions prior to trial that he was taking medication at 5:30am. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
43 |
Confirmed that she stated that “today was fine until my dad started drinking”. |
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What was he mad over and when did he start getting mad? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trail |
19 |
States that they went home at 11:30 because Robert told everyone he was hurting. States Robert was still angry after he got home. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
20 |
States Robert had three glasses of vodka and V-8 and taking medication. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
20 |
States Robert was mad at her because she didn’t listen. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
12 |
States Robert was taking hydrocodone, Soma and Methadone. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
111 |
States Robert was taking Soma, hydrocodone and Vicodin. |
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What was he taking? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
13 |
States that BOTH daughters present in the room when the incident began. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
149 |
States BOTH daughters were in the back of the house when incident began. |
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Where were the girls at the time of the incident? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
113 |
States Paula was not in the room with Robert and her at the time the incident began, that Paula came into the living room after hearing yelling (but before she was told to get on her hands and knees). |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
13 |
States that Robert made statements to Paula regarding boy at window and window being foiled and locked. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
144 |
States that Robert never mentioned the incident regarding Paul and the boy all day. |
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Was the boy mentioned or not? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
14 |
States that window was foiled on 9/14/05. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
26 |
States window was foiled a day or two before the incident. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
58 |
States that she thinks the window was foiled almost a week before the incident. |
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When was the window foiled? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
58 |
States she was not mad about window being foiled. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
144 |
States Paula was upset about her window being foiled. |
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Was Paula upset about the window being foiled, or not? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
60 |
States police were not called on 9/14/05. (the police WERE called on her and the boy, Derek Shugard) |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
142 |
States that police came to her home on 9/14/05 over Paula and boy (Derek Shugard). |
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Were the police called, and came, or not? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
17 |
States she looked at Robert with raised eyebrow. |
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Christine |
09/06/08 |
Trial |
148 |
States she was looking at Robert with no expression and he was yelling at her. |
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How did she look at him? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
17 |
States Robert told her to get on her hands and knees, with Paula present. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
17 |
States Paula was on the bed when Robert ordered her to her hands and knees. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
113 |
States Paula was standing in front of the living room, the front door, just standing there, when she was ordered by Robert to get on her hands and knees. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
153 |
States Paula was standing there watching the hands and knees incident. |
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Where and what was Paula doing during the hands and knees incident? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
17 |
States Robert had .44 revolver in his hand at the time he ordered her to her hands and knees. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
19 |
Still states that Robert had .44 revolver in his hands at the time he ordered her to her hands and knees. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
151 |
States Robert did not have a weapon at the time he ordered her to her hands and knees. |
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Did he have a weapon, or not, in his hands at the time of the hands and knees incident? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
114 |
States Robert sat down in recliner right after hands and knees incident. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
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NEVER MENTIONS MOTHER BEING ORDERED BY ROBERT TO GET ON HANDS AND KNEES. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
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NEVER MENTIONS MOTHER BEING ORDERED BY ROBERT TO GET ON HANDS AND KNEES. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
114 |
States her and Paula both sat on bed after the hands and knees incident. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
20 |
She states she is still sitting on the floor at the time Robert orders Paula to leave. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
154 |
States that she got up and sat on the edge of the bed, and Paula was standing there (after the hands and knees incident) and then both her and Paula were just standing there. Then she states she was sitting there and Paula sat on the edge of the bed. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
20 |
Robert orders Paula to leave and then Paula gets up off the bed. |
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Sitting, standing, edge of bed, on floor? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
20 |
States Robert walked “back there” and she went “back there” because he had his gun in his hand. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
155 |
States that Robert got up out of his recliner, followed Paula down the hallway and he did not have a weapon. |
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Did he, or not, have a weapon when he first went back to the bedroom after Paula? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
115 |
States that Robert got out of his recliner and followed Paula back to her bedroom and then Christine followed a minute later. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
14 |
States Robert followed her back to her bedroom. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
20 |
Robert went “back there” and Paula was sitting on her bed. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
21 |
Robert puts his hands around Paula’s throat and pushed her down onto the bed. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
115 & 116 |
States Paula got up off bed, Robert put both his hands on Paula’s throat and pushed Paula down on bed. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
157 |
States Paula stood up, Robert put his hands around her throat and followed her down to the bed. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
21 |
States Robert choked her with two hands. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
14 |
States she was on her bed and Robert and starts choking her and pushed her off her bed. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
63 |
States that he pushed her down onto her bed. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
21 |
States she went to her room to pack. Robert came back to her room and she stood up and he put his arms around her neck and started choking her. |
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Pushed her down on he bed, followed her down to the bed, pushed her off the bed, just started choking??? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
14 |
States she ran over to her sister’s side of bed and tried to leave and he pushed her down. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
159 & 60 |
States Paula pushed Robert off her (Paula) and states he stood up again and went to grab her (Paula) and pushed her into the cages. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
23 |
States she was going to leave the room and Robert followed her to the other side of the room and started choking her again. |
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Ran over to sister’s bed, was leaving the room? Which one? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
160 |
States that she (Christine) tried to get between Paula and Robert, and she did get between them. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
14 |
States mother came into the room, pushed Robert away. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
94 |
States she did not see mother while she was being choked. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
91 |
States that mother was in the living room (during the choking) during the whole thing, that mother was not around while she was being choked, that mother didn’t know she was being choked. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
66 & 67 |
States mother was in the living room when Robert was choking her. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
100 |
States mother was still in the living room, even after she pushed Robert into the TV after (2nd) choking. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
116 |
States that Robert was pushed into TV after 1st choking and Robert pushed Paula into the dog cage/pen and pushed Paula onto her other daughter’s bed. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
115 |
States that she saw Robert choking Paula. |
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Where was Christine, in the bedroom or living room, when Paula was being choked? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
168 |
Christine states that there is only one time that Robert choked Paula, not a 2nd time. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
116 |
States Robert left the bedroom after mentioning that Robert choked Paula only once. |
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Did he choke her once or twice? |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
161 |
Then states she followed Paula went down the hallway and Paula went out the door, that Robert did not have a weapon (and doesn’t mention Robert leaving to go get the shotgun and coming back.) |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
163 |
Then admits that Robert did have a gun when he came after Paula. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
22 |
Then states Robert left bedroom and went and got his gun. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
14 |
States Robert left bedroom to get shotgun and her mother followed him. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
23 |
States Robert went down the hallway to get the shotgun. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
117 |
States that she sees the shotgun when Robert comes back to the bedroom and then Paula goes down the hall to the living room. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
117 |
States that there was “not a struggle” with the gun |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
22 |
Then states Robert didn’t have gun when he initially entered bedroom. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
22 |
States again that Robert had his gun in his hand at the time she was on her hands and knees. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
22 |
Then states Robert put gun down before he went back to the bedroom. |
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Did Robert have the gun when he first entered the bedroom, not have it at all, went back to get it?? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
15 |
States Robert got shotgun, cocked, pulled and pushed and pointed it at her and threatened to blow her in pieces. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
23 |
States Robert came back down the hallway after her and she was at the bedroom door and he pointed the shotgun at her and it was already loaded and everything. |
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Was the gun loaded or not? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
68 |
States that after she was choked, she ran down the hallway and outside. (does not mention Robert with shotgun) |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
23 |
Then states Robert choked Paula and then went and got his gun. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
24 |
Then states he didn’t have his gun the first time, but followed him because she didn’t know what he would do. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
25 |
Then states after he got his shotgun, he choked Paula. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
25 |
States she grabbed his arm, pushed him away, Paula went down the hall and Christine went after her (no mention of gun). |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
169 |
Levine brings up issue that Christine previously stated that Paula was choked twice, when Christine had just stated Paula was only choked once. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
170 |
States she walked out behind Robert and Paula after choking (no mention of gun) and Paula went outside. |
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Did he have the gun or not, and how many times did he choke her? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
15 |
States mother pushed him out of the way and she ran outside. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
24 |
States mother came down the hallway after him, told him to put the gun up, that he has no reason to do this, so he went back and laid the shotgun down. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
25 |
(1st) States she was “hoping” Paula would go to the mobile home office and call somebody for help. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
24 |
(1st) States after Robert laid down shotgun, she went to the front door and went out the front door. (who saw him lay down the shotgun since Christine and Paula were already outside?) |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
118 |
States Paula went out of the house after the choking incident and laid on the ground balled up, and then says it was the 2nd time she went outside. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
26 |
(1st) Paula leaves the house, she calls for her to come back and Robert has .44 in his hand standing on the porch. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
27 |
(1st) Then states Robert points gun at Paula. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
173 |
(1st) States Robert did not have a weapon when he came outside. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
27 |
(1st) States Robert said he was gong to blow her into pieces. |
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Did he have the gun or not? |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
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NEVER STATES ROBERT POINTS GUN AT HER |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
27 |
(1st) States she is on the bottom of the steps and Robert was on the porch. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
16 |
(1st) States she ran down to the end of the driveway and down into the street. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
31 |
(1st) States got out of house and went down the street halfway. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
31 |
(1st) States mother came halfway down driveway and was calling her back. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
85 |
(1st) States that she was not completely halfway down the street, “like” just a little past the driveway. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
24 |
(1st) States did not get very far and Robert and her mother came after her. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
171 |
(1st) States Paula was on the sidewalk before the driveway. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
173 |
States Paula was not near the street. |
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So where was Paula? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
31 |
(1st) States she did not see Robert. (continued page 32) states went back to Christine and saw Robert standing in doorway. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
86 |
(1st) States Robert wasn’t outside, couldn’t see him |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
68 |
(1st) States Robert and her mother followed her outside. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
69 |
(1st) States Robert and her mother were standing on porch next to each other. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
32 |
States Robert did not have gun, that she knew of. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
26 |
(1st) States she went back in the house and tried to calm him down and he closed the door behind her. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
71 & 72 |
(1st) States came back in the house and Robert closed the door behind her and he wanted her to lock it, that he was trying to come after her and she opened up the door and “flew back out”. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
17 |
(1st) States she went back into the house and locked the door. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
32 |
(1st) States she went back into the house and locked the door and stayed right there. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
33 |
(1st) States she went back into the house and locked the door. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
26 |
(1st) States that Robert wanted her to close the door behind her and she said no and she wanted to keep the door open and he went to close it. Says mom pulled him away and she went back outside again. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
120 |
(1st) States Paula came back in the house and Paula did not lock the door. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
184 |
(1st) States her and Paula came back in the house, Robert told Paula to lock the door and Paula stated “no”. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
34 |
States Robert pushed mother out of the way, came after her and she went back outside for the 2nd time. |
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Locked the door, didn’t lock the door..etc.. ?? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
32 |
(1st) States she went back in the house and he had gun. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
33 |
(1st) States he had the gun and he put it down |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
32 |
(1st) States Robert sat down because she told him to. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
179 |
(2nd)When asked if Robert had a weapon, she states she is confused, that she can’t remember exactly what – he did have the rifle, the shotgun at one time. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
18 |
(2nd) States Robert had .44, standing in front of door and pointing gun at Christine. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
18 |
(2nd) First states she was on stairs, then states she ran away. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
35 |
(2nd) States that that she ran across the street. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
121 |
(2nd) States Paula was at the end of the driveway and she was at the bottom of the stairs. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
17 |
(2nd) Outside, states Robert had .44 and that he was going to blow Christine to pieces. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
26 |
(2nd) States that she ran down to the end of the driveway and Robert and her mother came back out and he had the .44 pistol in his hand. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
180 |
States Paula was at the top of the driveway. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
35 |
(2nd) States she was out at the driveway rolled up in a ball at the beginning of the driveway and Robert pointed gun at her and threatened to blow her up. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
35 |
(2nd) States Robert came down the sidewalk and she stopped running. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
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NEVER MENTIONS PAULA BEING ON GROUND |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
27 |
(2nd) States Robert followed her down the driveway, and thought that he brought the gun out. She states she crawled up on the ground and Robert said he was going to kill her. (does not mention Robert pointing gun at her.) |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
123 |
(2nd) States Paula got down on the ground between the driveway and sidewalk and that she was crying. (she does not mention that Robert came down the steps, points the gun at Paula and threatens to shoot Paula) |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
123 |
(2nd) States that Paula got up off the ground and was just standing there and Robert pointed the gun at Christine and told her he was going to blow her into pieces. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
124 |
(2) States that she and Paula goes back into the house after Christine is threatened to be “blown into pieces”. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
181 |
(2nd) States that Robert stated he was going to blow Paula to pieces. (never mentions about pointing gun at her and threatening to blow her to pieces.) |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
72 |
(2nd) States she ran out and he came outside and had the pistol. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
35 |
(2nd) States she did not know if mother saw gun because she was in front of Robert. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
35 |
(2nd) States Robert pointed gun at her and her mother told him to get away from her. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
37 |
(2nd) States Robert told her to get back in the house, or he would blow Christine to pieces. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
27 |
(2nd) States Robert went back up the stairs and he was at the top of the porch with her mother. Robert then states he would blow her mother to pieces and if she tried to run, he would kill her before she could get to the end of the driveway and he would kill her sister, the dog and himself. (does not mention pointing gun at mother) |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
37 |
States after she was “balled up” in the drive way, Robert threatens to blow her mother to pieces and tells her to get back in the house. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
38 |
(2nd) First states that she followed him back into the house, Robert first, then mother, then her, then states she didn’t go into the house, that she was on the stairs. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
38 |
(2nd) States Robert pointed gun a 2nd time at her, points it at Christine and threatens to blow Christine to pieces. |
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I guess they couldn’t decided who he was going to “blow to pieces”. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
39 |
(3rd) States that she tried to run down the street again, but didn’t make it very far, but came back and Robert was headed toward the gazebo. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
18 |
(3rd) States that they went to gazebo to talk about incident. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
28 |
(3rd) States that she suggests that they go to the gazebo to talk because she was not going back inside the house. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
39 |
States threatened her with ashtray and that is when she went to get help. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
40 |
Stated told Christine she loved her and told Robert bye. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
89 |
States that she did not state “bye” to Robert, that she stated “that’s it, I’m going, I’m leaving”. |
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“Bye”, No..uh.. “That’s it”.. what? She’s worried about courtesy? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
40 |
States she told police about shotgun, Robert walking down sidewalk with gun in his hand, laying balled up on ground, being threatened with ashtray and the gazebo. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
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NEVER MENTIONS GAZEBO INCIDENT |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
129 |
States Robert was sitting at the end of the driveway when maintenance man arrived, and he got up and both Robert and maintenance man walked into the trailer. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
194 |
States then that Robert just sat there in the driveway and waited for the police. |
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Did he wait in the driveway for the police or not? |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
20 |
States she told police about choking and bruising on arm. |
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Sgt. Coleman |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
213 |
States that Paula never told him she had been choked, or showed him any red marks. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
183 |
States that there is no witnesses. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
73 |
(2nd) States that Connie Gutierrez and her son were witnesses to the event in the driveway, that she saw them real fast. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
20 |
States that neighbors (Chris and his mother) witnessed incident outside on 9/15/05 (because they were looking through window – page 21 continued statement) |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
47 |
Stated that Connie and Chris across the street were outside when cops were there, but (continued testimony page 48)Levine brings out the testimony that she states that the neighbors saw Robert with the gun. Paula admits that she did testify in 11/05 that Connie and Chris saw Robert with the gun. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
49 |
Then states that Connie and Chris were there and did not call the police, that they didn’t do anything. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
81 |
States that she doesn’t remember, doesn’t think she did tell police about Connie and Chris witnessing incident. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
21 |
States Mariam (continued on page 22) and her mom witnessed, but not sure what they saw. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
28 |
Stated that she was hoping that somebody outside would witness, like a neighbor or something. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
31 |
States ran between the trailers to the office to call police. (never mentions running past Mariam and her mom during initial testimony.) |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
47 |
States that Mariam and her mom see her running away and crying. (this is during cross examination by Levine) |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
81 |
States she did tell the police that Mariam saw what happened. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
238 |
States that according to Paula, that there were no witnesses to what happened between Paula and Robert. States Paula said that nobody actually saw it except for me and him. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trail |
238 |
According to Paula, she states that Christine did not witness anything between Paula and Robert. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
245 |
Agrees that Paula never told him that Christine was present or witnessed anything. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
246 |
States that based on what Paula told him verbally, she wasn’t choked and he didn’t see any signs of choking. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
247 |
Stated that he didn’t feel like Paula was giving him 100 percent as far as what actually happened physically. |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
249 |
Stated that according to Paula, there was nobody else that actually saw the gun pointing at her and that all the events between her and Robert occurred inside the house. |
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Christine |
11/04/05 |
PO |
6 |
States there were no witnesses to the incident of 9/15/05. |
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So, do we have witnesses or not? |
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Deputy Acosta |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
250 & 251 |
States he had a question as to the physical part of it, that there was a choking or some type of physical violence, that she never mentioned the choking once during the whole time he talked with her. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
32 |
States that mother did not talk with police, that she was across the street at Neil Murray’s. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
131 |
States only talked to officers once when they asked her if everything was okay (that was all). |
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Sgt. Coleman |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
200 |
States that he talked to Paula’s mother and she said the same story Paula did. |
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Sgt. Coleman |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
209 |
States that he talked to Christine in five minute increments about three or four times. |
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Sgt. Coleman |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
210 |
States that he saw Deputy Acosta talk to Christine. |
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Did Christine talk to the police or not? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
52 |
States she did not go to Connie’s or Mariam’s to call police because she was not sure if they were home. (even though she states she saw Connie and Chris witness the incident, and she ran past Mariam and her mother) |
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Christine |
11/04/05 |
PO |
5 |
States never told anyone that they were being abused. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
27 |
States that they tried to tell the neighbors across the street they were being abused, telling them little bit by little. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
28 |
States that they would have discussions with neighbor about abuse from Robert and (continued on page 29) that they had more than one conversation and that Christine had talked to them also. |
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Did they talk to anyone or not about abuse? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
44 |
Stated that the police officer was rushing her. |
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Christine |
11/02/05 |
PO |
30 |
States Robert made the decision that girls were to be home schooled. |
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Paula |
11/04/05 |
PO |
12 |
States Robert and her mother made the decision that girls were to be home schooled. |
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Can’t decide who made a simple decision about home schooling? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
90 |
Stated that she had the opportunity to tell the full story at the protective order. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
91 |
States that judge at protective order wanted her to get to the main point, but then states she told the “whole entire story” and that they asked certain questions. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
98 |
States “guess so” when she was asked if the judge at the protective order wanted her to get to the point. |
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Get to the point, had opportunity to tell the whole story? |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
55 |
States did not have a granddaughter/grandmother relationship with Robert’s mother, Anita. |
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Christine |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
138 |
States that girls did have a granddaughter/grandmother relationship with Robert’s mother, that they called her “Grandma”. |
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Do they have a relationship or not? |
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Person |
Date |
Transcript |
Page |
Testimony |
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09/06/06 |
Trial |
76 |
Christine is caught listening to testimony at the trial. |
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Paula |
09/06/06 |
Trial |
82 |
After the protective order was granted, (she was asked if she remembered stating to her mother “Now I can see my boyfriend”. She states that she doesn’t remember saying it like that. |
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09/06/06 |
Trial |
Various |
Why is it the judge keeps telling Robert’s attorney to “get to the point” while she is cross examining, but does not make the statement to the prosecutor when he is questioning? |
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09/15/05 |
Police Report |
1 |
Police report states that Christine is his common-law wife. She claimed, and then states she is his girlfriend. She knew that Robert was still married to a woman by the name of Billie. |
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09/28/05 |
Police Report |
10 |
Police report states (Christine went to patrol office and requested assistance in completing crime victim’s application.) That she was ordered to the ground as the defendant (Robert) pointed the gun at her while her daughter ran to the office manager’s office for help. |
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09/29/05 |
Police Report |
11 |
Shotgun (allegedly used in crime) was released (without an authorized signature from a judge) to Christine, who went there claiming she was Robert’s common-law wife |
Notes:
Acosta states that Paula’s face was red, could have been from the fact that she ran so far to trailer office?
Answer: As many as you want, because if this wasn't enough, I don't know what is...
You know what is REALLY funny about all this? And to think that a woman, and her daughter, with virtually no education, made fools out of people who paid thousands of bucks to go through law school!!